JORGE RAMOS, UNIVISION ANCHOR: Are you a feminist?
MARGARITA ZAVALA, CANDIDATE (I), PRESIDENCY OF MEXICO: I have said that I am a feminist, because I defend...because, also, first: I am aware of the enormous discrimination against women. I've done a lot of work in regard to the rights..women's rights. I can tell each...to women...I know,,,what you feel. I know what it is...to make your own way. I know what it is to make your own way every day.
RAMOS: So you're saying that you support women and defend women.
ZAVALA: Yes.
RAMOS: That you seek equity. RAMOS: That you seek equity. So it would seem allright to you for two women to get married.
ZAVALA: Well. With regard to that, I have to say, it's very important to me and I've had no problem saying it...I'm...I'm Catholic and I have Christian values of which I am very proud, and marriage for me is between a man and a woman.
ZAVALA: But I also... (CROSSTALK)
RAMOS: So if two women want to get married...
RAMOS: Don't they have the same right to do so?
ZAVALA: Excuse me...of course...I'm an attorney, I know how to respect...I respect the laws, the institutions, but I'm also among those who think that another legal framework can be found.
RAMOS: Is it a religious thing, or...
ZAVALA: I have these types of values but I respect...
RAMOS: So do you believe that a marriage is only between a man and a woman?
ZAVALA: I re...I'm also an attorney, and I respect what the laws say, and it is Congress who decides...(CROSSTALK)
RAMOS: But this isn't about respect, it's about what you believe- in other words...
ZAVALA: Hold on a sec...
RAMOS: ...whether Mexico is going to have a president that does not believe that their women should marry each other.
ZAVALA: I believe that women should be happy, likewise the men, living with whosoever they choose...
RAMOS: But notice that you don't want to answer that.
ZAVALA: ...and be able to enter into a joint venture...
ZAVALA: No, I...
RAMOS: But that is prejudice.
ZAVALA: No...for me, it's very...no, no, no...
RAMOS: Of course it is, it's prejudice- it's prejudice against gays.
ZAVALA: It's a concept, Jorge. That's not true. It's a concept...hold on, let me just...
RAMOS: It's prejudice to not want to give the same rights to gays.
ZAVALA: No...let me finish.
RAMOS: I know many gays.
ZAVALA: Me too.
RAMOS: There are many gays in my family.
ZAVALA: In mine, too.
RAMOS: (Based on) what you're saying, you are discriminating against them.
ZAVALA: No, not exactly...
RAMOS: Totally!
RAMOS: You're telling them that they don't have the same rights!
ZAVALA: Jorge, just let me finish. That is... I can have a view on marriage based on the values I have, and which I'm proud of. But I am also an attorney, and respect the law. Now, the issue of discrimination goes far beyond whether we agree on a legal framework...
RAMOS: You are discriminating against gays. You are discriminating against gays.
ZAVALA: This is...this is not in regard to a legal framework. This is about the enormous discrimination that does exist. It's about when they go into a hospital and they're not allowed in nor given care because of a difference in sexual preference. It's the discrimination from them going into a school and not being accepted because of that.
RAMOS: Do you believe that gays are born...born gay?
ZAVALA: That's an issue that...
RAMOS: It's...do you believe...
ZAVALA: That's an issue that, certainly...In other words...yes, based on what medicine has said. But let me tell you something.
RAMOS: But?
ZAVALA: In real..No. .Hold on, let me tell you something. There are certain...
RAMOS: You're not suggesting that they can change?
ZAVALA: No. No. there are certain... No, of course not. There are certain concepts with which I agree, and that doesn't mean that I'm not going to respect the laws.