JEN PSAKI: So apparently, there was a big meeting recently between two of my former bosses, President Obama and President Biden. And in that meeting, which was first reported by The Washington Post, the two discussed concerns President Obama has about the strategy and operations of the Biden campaign. One source told the Post, quote, Obama grew animated in discussing the 2024 election and former President Donald Trump's potential return to power. The Post reports that Obama has told Biden aides that the campaign needs to move more aggressively, and he suggested that the campaign needs more top-level decision makers at its headquarters. According to the Post, he mentioned David Plouffe, his 2008 campaign manager, my former boss, as the type of senior strategist needed at the Biden campaign. Joining me now is of course David Plouffe, former campaign manager for Barack Obama's 2008 presidential race. Okay, Plouffe. I know, I know you've been telling people, probably including me, for a very long time that you are retired from active campaign work. But I think we can all agree we’re kind of in an existential moment here. So two presidents, hypothetically, ask you to return to campaign work, just for a little while, given how existential this is. Would you consider it?
DAVID PLOUFFE: Well- good try, Jen. No. Uh, first of all, I…
PSAKI: No, you would not!