>> Caitlyn: Tell me one good thing she's done.
>> Zackary: Where is this anger coming from? You seem like you're really angry about this.
>> Caitlyn: It's so upsetting to me to see where this... Where this whole thing is headed.
>> Zackary: You know, I really appreciate debate, um, but I'm really reticent to engage if somebody's at an escalated pitch with their voice. You know, I try to be as, like, diplomatic as possible, and especially when it comes to politics. Um, Hillary Clinton, when she was Secretary of State, was the person who spearheaded the effort to make it easier for trans people to change their gender marker on their passports.
>> Caitlyn: That is very good for us, okay? But we are .8% of the population, and that is a very small thing.
>> Zackary: Listen, she's somebody who's dedicated her life to gender equality.
>> Caitlyn: In the scheme of things, that is, like, itty-bitty, teeny-weeny...
>> Zackary: I can go on, but I won't go on if I'm being interrupted. I'm listening to everything that you're saying, and...
>> Caitlyn: If you look at it...
>> Zackary: But I unfortunately don't feel, you know, comfortable or safe enough to disagree with you. And I think that that's-that's unfortunate.
>> Caitlyn: You know what, I-I appreciate your candor and your calm voice. And you've calmed me down. But it's just... Very upsetting to me.
>> Zackary: You know, I'm aware that those ideas are out there, but I've never really been in the same room with somebody who's trying to kind of, like, come for me or come for, you know, my girlfriends, and sort of try to convince us that we're wrong. I mean, I think that probably comes from 65 years of being a Republican man.
Important to note that the entire show bases itself on what a hard life transgendered people have. And how much the world hates them. And how things are so unsafe for them. Yet, as you just heard, here’s this trans guy (?) literally saying this is the first time anyone has “come for him.” Or, really gone after him with the intent of criticizing who he is and trying to change him.
Which, of course, completely gives lie to the whole premise of the show. The premise of the show, that life is hell for any and all trans people, should make them pros after years of dealing with people like Jenner and by now should be intellectually humbling him given their massive practice at arguing with people who disagree with them.