JORGE RAMOS, SENIOR ANCHOR, UNIVISION: Hillary Clinton said the following after receiving the package bombs in her residence. Let’s listen:
HILLARY CLINTON: But it is a troubling time, isn’t it? And it’s a time of deep divisions, and we have to do everything we can to bring our country together.
RAMOS: This is what Hillary Clinton said after having received the mail bombs. However, Hillary Clinton also said that when the principles in which one believes are attacked, that you don’t have to act in a civilized manner. Eric Holder said that when Republicans attack, you have to,,,you have to beat them. Is this also the manner in which Democrats should act, Congressman Gutiérrez? Can both Republicans as well as Democrats be blamed for this?
CONGRESSMAN LUIS GUTIÉRREZ (D-IL): First, Jorge, I believe in peaceful civil disobedience, ah? In order to bring change. So I’ve taken (sic) and when I say that we’re going to beat them, we’re going to beat them in a peaceful manner, and in a way that is legal within the law. Good. I believe this should be done. But let’s be clear. The leader is the President of the United States. And he should begin to be the President of the United States, Jorge…
RAMOS: But he didn’t send the mail bombs, right?
GUTIÉRREZ: Yes, but I believe…
RAMOS: That’s what the White House says.
GUTIÉRREZ: But I believe that you have to put it in context, Jorge. When you talk about Benito Juarez, you know that he’s a nationalist because he loves Mexico. José Marti is a nationalist because he loves Cuba. I could name nationalists that the people know very well, by their love of their homeland. But when this president says, “I’m a nationalist”, he’s talking about a fascistic nationalism, and he’s calling on all those ultra right wing groups to take action as we’ve already seen throughout this country.